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Noah Kagan

Founder · AppSumo, early Mint

Talking to humans, tiny price tests, and email as a weapon

Most ideas die because nobody was asked to pay. Talk to a hundred people. Run a tiny price test. Own an email list so you are not a guest in someone else's casino.

If they will not give you a dollar or an email for the promise, they will not give you a subscription later.
Model
List-first
Engine
Email
Stance
Ask 100 people

Products

  • AppSumoDeals + email list as a business model
  • Mint (early growth)Growth work that became folklore
  • OkDork / SumoThe public playbook and the list

Across the five stages

How they actually operate.

01

Niche

A group you can actually reach this month. Proof is conversations, not a persona deck. Interesting is a trap. Pain plus budget is a niche.

  1. 01Write the problem in their words.
  2. 02Talk to 100 of them. Count yeses that involve money or time.
  3. 03Run a landing page before a product.
  4. 04Kill ideas that collect compliments.

02

Think

The first product is a test of the sentence. Build the minimum that delivers the promise you already sold.

  1. 01Sell a deal, a PDF, a tiny tool — anything that completes the loop.
  2. 02Keep the first version concierge if you have to.
  3. 03Price is a question you ask the market, not a feeling you have.
  4. 04If fulfillment is miserable, the niche may still be wrong.

03

Before

Emails, partners, and a page. Warm up the list with value so the ask is not the first letter.

  1. 01Put capture everywhere.
  2. 02Partner with people who already have the list you want.
  3. 03Practice the pitch in conversations, then freeze it on the page.
  4. 04Ignore vanity waitlist counts.

04

Launch

An email, a page, a deadline. Deals and launches work when there is a reason to act today and a human on the other side.

  1. 01Give the list a reason that is not 'we exist now'.
  2. 02Make support part of the launch, not an afterthought.
  3. 03Use partners as distribution, not as decoration.
  4. 04Measure buyers, not applause.

05

After

The list is the company. Keep teaching, keep asking, keep the store simple. YouTube later is just a louder way to fill the same list.

  1. 01Send mail on a cadence you can keep for years.
  2. 02Let the audience vote with replies and receipts.
  3. 03Avoid building a product that cannot be emailed about clearly.
  4. 04Reinvest attention into owned channels.

Tactics in the library